Más allá del orden: 12 nuevas reglas para vivir
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Summary
Tras 12 reglas para vivir， llega su esperada continuación， la obra que nos da el perfecto equilibrio entre orden y caos。
En 12 reglas para vivir， obra de la que se han vendido más de cinco millones de ejemplares y que ha influido como ninguna otra en el ámbito intelectual y político del último lustro， Jordan Peterson ofrecía verdades eternas aplicadas a las ansiedades contemporáneas。 Su mensaje provocador sobre el valor de la responsabilidad individual y el significado de nuestras acciones ha resonado con enorme fuerza arrastrando a miles de lectores a las librerías。
A diferencia del anterior， centrado en las consecuencias del caos， Más allá del orden alerta sobre los peligros de un exceso de seguridad y control en nuestra vida y pone en valor conceptos como la creatividad， la curiosidad o la vitalidad。 El objetivo es mantener el perfecto equilibrio entre los dos principios fundamentales de la realidad: el orden y el caos， y evitar que ninguno de los dos gobierne nuestro destino。 Entremezclando mitos， historia clásica y ejemplos personales de su propia vida y práctica clínica， Peterson presenta doce nuevos principios para lograr una vida con más sentido。
En 12 reglas para vivir， obra de la que se han vendido más de cinco millones de ejemplares y que ha influido como ninguna otra en el ámbito intelectual y político del último lustro， Jordan Peterson ofrecía verdades eternas aplicadas a las ansiedades contemporáneas。 Su mensaje provocador sobre el valor de la responsabilidad individual y el significado de nuestras acciones ha resonado con enorme fuerza arrastrando a miles de lectores a las librerías。
A diferencia del anterior， centrado en las consecuencias del caos， Más allá del orden alerta sobre los peligros de un exceso de seguridad y control en nuestra vida y pone en valor conceptos como la creatividad， la curiosidad o la vitalidad。 El objetivo es mantener el perfecto equilibrio entre los dos principios fundamentales de la realidad: el orden y el caos， y evitar que ninguno de los dos gobierne nuestro destino。 Entremezclando mitos， historia clásica y ejemplos personales de su propia vida y práctica clínica， Peterson presenta doce nuevos principios para lograr una vida con más sentido。
Reviews
Christi LeMunyon
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Though not as good as it’s predecessor， this book still had valuable insights。 Rule I’s talk about the utility of the fool was intriguing with its call to gratitude and reminder of the importance of humility。 “But today’s beginner is tomorrow master。” We can decide to be grateful and seek out whatever opportunities present themselves and make friends with what we don’t know。 Rule XII smacked me in the face。 Throughout his work， he talks about the inevitability of suffering and courageously facin Though not as good as it’s predecessor， this book still had valuable insights。 Rule I’s talk about the utility of the fool was intriguing with its call to gratitude and reminder of the importance of humility。 “But today’s beginner is tomorrow master。” We can decide to be grateful and seek out whatever opportunities present themselves and make friends with what we don’t know。 Rule XII smacked me in the face。 Throughout his work， he talks about the inevitability of suffering and courageously facing it without resentment。 This rule took it one step further in my opinion。 Not only should you face the suffering， but you should be grateful for it。 “You are not grateful because you are naive， but because you have decided to put a hand forward to encourage the best in yourself， and the state， and the world。” He continues by connecting grief and gratitude; “Grief is perhaps the ultimate proof of love。 Grief is an uncontrollable manifestation of your belief that the lost person’s existence， limited and flawed as it might’ve been， was worthwhile despite the limitations and flaws even of life itself。” He reminds us to remain grateful， even for that which does not bring us immediate happiness; “Gratitude is therefore the process of consciously and courageously attempting thankfulness in the face of the catastrophe of life。” We can all use this as a reminder that we can be grateful for suffering as it is a catalyst for growth。 Another good book to revisit in the future。 Alway stand up straight with your shoulders back。 。。。more
Itai Makate
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Great follow up to the original
Neeraj Arunkumar
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2。 Imagine who you could be， and aim single-mindedly at that。 7。 Work as hard as you possibly can on at least one thing and see what happens。12。 Be grateful in spite of your suffering。
Ken Orton
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Okay， early in life I determined that if I started something I finished it。 That was my depression era parents。 So， reading this book was a real beating -just see the starting and ending dates。 To begin with， my sight is somewhat compromised so the font chosen was not only hard for me to see to read but it helped expand the book to 382 pages。 I read his 12 Rules （first book） rabidly， highlighting and marking on the second time through it and then have called up some of my notes from time to time Okay， early in life I determined that if I started something I finished it。 That was my depression era parents。 So， reading this book was a real beating -just see the starting and ending dates。 To begin with， my sight is somewhat compromised so the font chosen was not only hard for me to see to read but it helped expand the book to 382 pages。 I read his 12 Rules （first book） rabidly， highlighting and marking on the second time through it and then have called up some of my notes from time to time。 As hard as I tried I just couldn't get into almost all of this volume so part of the one star could be on me。 I just was unable to concentrate on it （kinda like in college reading sociology or history） and my attention would wander after a short time。 There were a few good paragraphs here and there but most of it became sheer determination to find 12 more things that applied to me。 Being hospitalized himself and his family's health problem no doubt had an effect on his writing。 And， I feel guilty about the rating but I shouldn't because he has millions of dollars from his efforts。 And I really like the guy。 I just wish I had gotten the same （or even close to） as transformed as I was from volume one。 。。。more
Leon Gunning
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A softer and more vulnerable book than his 12 rules and far away from his academic maps of meaning。 It never the less has concrete case studies of his successful career as a clinical practitioner with well told applications to general ways of experiencing reality for a more grounded life。 Like many sequels it sometimes suffers from the feeling of treading over old ground even with new axioms but the approach for this book made it fresh and explored new themes。 Dr。 Peterson makes special pains to A softer and more vulnerable book than his 12 rules and far away from his academic maps of meaning。 It never the less has concrete case studies of his successful career as a clinical practitioner with well told applications to general ways of experiencing reality for a more grounded life。 Like many sequels it sometimes suffers from the feeling of treading over old ground even with new axioms but the approach for this book made it fresh and explored new themes。 Dr。 Peterson makes special pains to highlight the critical flaws of too much and badly implemented order。 He does this in the original but this time around he presses the point more to avoid some of the misrepresentations which his previous pop book stirred。 Great read and great listen。 。。。more
D。N。
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Jordan Peterson is back after a life-threatening illness and a coma， and his new book is an extension of the"12 Rules for Life" that put him on the literary map。 And again， this book is arranged in 12 chapters devoted to 12 new rules。 Despite a theological error in the last chapter， Peterson provides wise advice for young men and women。 He's a bit more clinical than mythical this time around， and 'Beyond Order' lacks the edgy urgency of '12 Rules For Life'， but Peterson does a good job of defend Jordan Peterson is back after a life-threatening illness and a coma， and his new book is an extension of the"12 Rules for Life" that put him on the literary map。 And again， this book is arranged in 12 chapters devoted to 12 new rules。 Despite a theological error in the last chapter， Peterson provides wise advice for young men and women。 He's a bit more clinical than mythical this time around， and 'Beyond Order' lacks the edgy urgency of '12 Rules For Life'， but Peterson does a good job of defending inherited values and permanent things after they've lost the tradition-based philosophical and religious moorings needed to sustain them。If you enjoyed '12 Rules For Life'， you'll undoubtedly appreciate this moderate follow-up。 。。。more
Cecilia
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We should all be so grateful to have this man writing and speaking at precisely this moment。 God certainly works in mysterious ways。 Thank JP for another great book。
Mike Futcher
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"I believe even more deeply that people have the ability to transcend their suffering， psychologically and practically…" （pg。 355）The black cover of Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life was already planned。 Given Jordan B。 Peterson's professional interest in the Jungian concepts of chaos and order， the striking dark sleeve was always intended – a yin/yang counterpart to the white cover of the first， wildly successful 12 Rules for Life。 But， in light of developments in Peterson's life since 2018， "I believe even more deeply that people have the ability to transcend their suffering， psychologically and practically…" （pg。 355）The black cover of Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life was already planned。 Given Jordan B。 Peterson's professional interest in the Jungian concepts of chaos and order， the striking dark sleeve was always intended – a yin/yang counterpart to the white cover of the first， wildly successful 12 Rules for Life。 But， in light of developments in Peterson's life since 2018， the concept proves to be a prescient and appropriate symbol of the author's status as you open his new book。When I went to see Jordan Peterson at the Manchester Apollo in October 2018， he was at the top of his game。 He was undertaking a 160-venue global speaking tour， delivering an unscripted， freewheeling lecture that was different each time; an experience he recalls fondly in Beyond Order。 He was， on that particular night in Manchester， riveting。 Even as a low-ranking lobster watching from the cheaper seats at the back of the venue， it was clear to me that everyone in the audience was engaged。 Though he writes in Beyond Order that what you want from an engrossed audience is "dead silence" （pg。 160）， he was surprisingly funny， making us laugh frequently。 The hall was filled with goodwill and a sense of purpose。Fast-forward a little over two years and the world has changed: unprecedented chaos out of China has resulted in the imposition of similarly unprecedented order around the world。 For his own part， Jordan Peterson is， if not broken， then certainly recovering tentatively after being beaten down by the chaos of life。 As he relates in Beyond Order's raw and humbling introduction， or 'Overture'， his wife of thirty years （whom he has known for fifty， since they were children） was diagnosed with a rare， near-incurable form of cancer。 His daughter， whose horrific health problems were discussed in the first 12 Rules book， had to have another operation。 And he himself was blindsided by a growing benzodiazepine dependence， taken （with a doctor's recommendation） to manage a long-standing tendency towards depression and the anxiety of his controversial public profile。 This resulted in a hellish trap， a dark maze with no exits – as anyone will recognise， providing they ignore the tawdry hit-pieces and the big-brains on social media， and look sincerely at what 'dependence' is。 Drastic treatments in Russia and Serbia， including a medically-induced coma， eventually forced a crack of light at the end of the tunnel。But， as Ernest Hemingway wrote， a man can be destroyed but not defeated。 Peterson's wife's cancer was cured， and his daughter's problems resolved sufficiently to the extent that she could shoulder the burden of managing her father's recovery – something which must， in light of his teachings， give him inestimable pride。 Peterson has returned， tentatively， to the public spotlight – noticeably frailer and less energetic， but with his mind increasingly sharp。 His plight， however， hasn't stopped the vitriol from his detractors， who revel in his misfortunes， or the wilfully ignorant hit-pieces （including a particularly clumsy one from the London Times， who should know better）。 （As a sidebar， if you are familiar with Peterson's work and have any gift for writing comprehension， read one of those hit-pieces for a prime example of how， with seeming benignity， language and structure can be manipulated for mendacious effect。）All of which is a long way of saying that the black cover of Beyond Order is very much appropriate cladding for this stage of Peterson's ongoing conversation with his audience。 The trials of the past two years are reflected in all the lines of his prose。 Even when they are not addressed directly， they present an elephant in the room， and Peterson does well to confront this。 "Who am I to tell people to clean up their rooms… when， apparently， I cannot do it myself？"， Peterson writes on page 202。 Should we listen to someone whose life unravelled so spectacularly？ Whose shouldering of a great burden was handled in part by a growing drug dependence， even if this was prescribed and taken in good faith？ Put your house in perfect order before criticising the world， the first 12 Rules book said to us。 Surely， the last two years show， Jordan Peterson's house wasn't in perfect order？To answer this – and refute it – it is worth reminding ourselves of what Peterson's message has been。 It's a difficult one to hold in your mind sometimes （though Peterson's clarity and consistency in delivering it is a great help）， because it is， if not counter-intuitive， then at least not how we instinctively and superficially yearn for the world to be。 It requires effort to hold it there。 It is a message that benefits from being unpacked – which is partly why Peterson's lectures are so riveting – but I was searching for a concise passage in Beyond Order that might do the work for me。 This is as good as any I could find:"Question: Who are you – or， at least， who could you be？ Answer: Part of the eternal force that constantly confronts the terrible unknown， voluntarily; part of the eternal force that transcends naivete and becomes dangerous enough， in a controlled manner， to understand evil and beard it in its lair; and part of the eternal force that faces chaos and turns it into productive order， or that takes order that has become too restrictive， reduces it to chaos， and renders it productive once again。And all of this， being very difficult to understand consciously but vital to our survival， is transmitted in the form of the stories that we cannot help but attend to。 And it is in this manner that we come to apprehend what is of value， what we should aim at， and what we could be。" （pg。 58）Accept chaos， accept order; learn from the benefits and the suffering that both can bring。 You can begin to intuit this from careful consideration of the stories that resonate deeply with us， which have endured to become "the fundamental narratives that sit at the base of our culture。 These stories… are at least in part a consequence of our watching ourselves act across eons of human history， and distilling from that watching the essential patterns of our actions" （pg。 256）。 With this understanding in mind， you can try to chart the way between both， to the benefit of yourself， those around you， and， ultimately， the world。 "With careful searching， with careful attention， you might tip the balance toward opportunity and against obstacle sufficiently so that life is clearly worth living， despite its fragility and suffering" （pg。 108）。 Adoption of responsibility is where "the meaning that most effectively sustains life is to be found" （pg。 113）。Reading Beyond Order， it was at first difficult for me to parse Peterson's continuation of this message。 Peterson remains a more gifted speaker than he is a writer， and the early chapters of Beyond Order struggle to get going。 The book takes a while to warm up， and it is easier to lose the thread of argument than it is in his lectures and podcasts。 There is something about his dynamism in speaking， perhaps his cadences or – I suspect – his emphasis， that remains largely unharnessed in his writing。 Once the book does warm up， however， it takes off， and entire passages – sometimes entire chapters – are revelatory， and gratifying to any reader disturbed by the "modern crisis of meaning" （pg。 165）。 It takes a long time to read the book， but that's in large part because you will be having a conversation with yourself as you read it – a deep and meaningful （and often long overdue） one。 Nevertheless， it's strange that I've reviewed （and loved） all three of Peterson's books so far （two of which are bestsellers）， and yet I still feel certain that his lectures and podcasts are the best first port of call for those looking to approach the man's work。Certainly， Beyond Order shouldn't be the first port of call， as remarkable as it often is。 As the subtitle suggests， these are 12 More Rules for Life， and if the written word is your chosen medium to first approach Peterson， that first 12 Rules book is the place to start。 Peterson does well in Beyond Order to re-introduce what he built in that first book， but this second one is very much an expansion on the framework of the first。 I do wonder if my relative ease in slipping back into Peterson's conversation here is because I have already read and listened to so much from him。 Even much of what will be new here to some readers is stuff I was introduced to in Maps of Meaning。Once the reader gets used to the message – which， given how fascinating it becomes in its many psychological and philosophical layers， is not too difficult （except， perhaps， for corporate journalists） – then Peterson's personal plight in the last couple of years starts to be recognised not as a mark against his 'Rules'， but in favour of them。 Peterson's advice has always been based on his long experience as a clinical psychologist， and his deep reading of the relevant literature。 It has never been based on any personal embodiment （that， I think， would be to fall into the trap of the 'cult-like' slur the journalistic hit-pieces like to deploy）， even though his peculiar charisma helps。 One of the most striking phrases from his first 12 Rules book， and in his lectures， is that you should get yourself together so that "when your father dies， you can help plan the funeral"。 When everyone is bereft， you can be someone people can rely on， which makes the suffering more bearable， and not – as it can so easily be – much worse。 When the waves come crashing in， ensure you have prepared strong foundations。 Peterson's house was in sufficient order that when chaos came – in waves – it was strong enough to endure。Even at the Manchester Apollo in October 2018， when Jordan Peterson was still riding the apex of that strange wave which had emerged around him， he was always open about how these 'Rules' apply to himself too。 Those who frame events of the last two years as a dose of overdue humility for the man are shockingly ignorant。 Humble， sincere and lucid， and with his background in clinical psychology， Peterson has always been clear about helping people get their lives together: "I find it heart-wrenching to see how little encouragement and guidance so many people have received， and how much good can emerge when just a little more is provided" （pg。 159）。 When he delves into the political discussion， it is （beyond offering his personal opinions to a friendly podcaster） only in response to this desire， such as when he makes the case for abandoning ideology in general （one of the twelve new rules in this second book）， or when he makes the case against trendy， low-resolution conceptions of 'patriarchy' and 'toxic masculinity': "the increasingly reflexive identification of the striving of boys and men for victory with the 'patriarchal tyranny' that hypothetically characterizes our modern， productive， and comparatively free societies is so stunningly counterproductive （and， it must be said， cruel: there is almost nothing worse than treating someone striving for competence as a tyrant in training）" （pp26-27）。Indeed， the struggle in Beyond Order is not so much for humility but something even more profound: gratitude。 The final two rules， "Do not allow yourself to become resentful， deceitful， or arrogant" and "Be grateful in spite of your suffering"， are ones that Peterson finds especially potent in light of his personal trauma， and this potency shows through in the writing of them。 He describes himself as an optimist， arguing that optimism retained after suffering， as opposed to naïve， childlike optimism， is a valuable thing （pg。 357）。 Gratitude is a difficult state of mind to achieve in response to the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune， perhaps second only to forgiveness。 After such a durable and revivifying book， it was always likely to be a compelling ending。 It likely seemed so even back when that black cover was greenlit。 But in light of Jordan Peterson's own personal journey in the last couple of years， to end this book in this way is a considerable feat。 。。。more
Kaspars Seglins
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5 although， first one was better in my opinion。
Darth Readius
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How is one to properly review or summarize a Jordan Peterson book？ The words that come to mind are excellent， profound and life changing but that does not do them justice。 I can't help but thinking that those poor souls who believe he is some kind of Nazi only reveal their own profound lack of any sense and their not insignificant streak of malevolence running through their own lives。 This book along with his previous book 12 Rules for Life seem to be developing an emergent and heroic based ethi How is one to properly review or summarize a Jordan Peterson book？ The words that come to mind are excellent， profound and life changing but that does not do them justice。 I can't help but thinking that those poor souls who believe he is some kind of Nazi only reveal their own profound lack of any sense and their not insignificant streak of malevolence running through their own lives。 This book along with his previous book 12 Rules for Life seem to be developing an emergent and heroic based ethic。 Which our cultural ecosystem is appalling bereft of all things heroic or ethical despite or laud bellowing to the contrary。 Chapters that stood out to me:Rule 2: Talked about the heroes journey。Rule 3: Do not hide unwanted things in the fog。 Rule 6: Abandon ideology。 Abandon univariate analysis in order to discover the whole truth。Rule 7: was mind blowing。 Titled "Work as hard as you possibly can on at least one thing and see what happens"。 By focusing on one thing and pursuing it your disordered psyche begins to order itself。 He used the example of him and his peers going through grade school。 To write about a single thing for a long period of time takes a lot of organizing to accomplish。 Focusing on an external project and bringing order to it results in an ordering of your own psyche。 Hence why cleaning your room is so important。 Rule 10: About maintaining romance in relationships。 Pleasantly devoid of any naive optimism about the difficulties of maintaining a peaceful romance。Rule 11: While discussing how to not become resentful Peterson outlays the 7 elements any social idea needs in order to adequately account for reality。 Nature is divided into the benevolent goddess and evil witch/dragon。 Culture: wise King and evil tyrant。 Individual: Hero and adversary。 He also talks about the terrible pitfalls and consequences of distorting reality。 。。。more
Brian Hilliker
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This book was fantastic， albeit slightly empty in tone。 Jordan Peterson appears to be on the brink between Atheism and Theism throughout this book。 He holds up the wisdom of Biblical truth， yet does not completely grasp its true beauty。 He sees the persona of Jesus and calls individuals to pursue Christ's principles， yet he does not truly believe in Christ's deity。 Each rule Jordan provides is beautifully written。 One cannot argue that Jordan's writing style is captivating。 He writes like a man This book was fantastic， albeit slightly empty in tone。 Jordan Peterson appears to be on the brink between Atheism and Theism throughout this book。 He holds up the wisdom of Biblical truth， yet does not completely grasp its true beauty。 He sees the persona of Jesus and calls individuals to pursue Christ's principles， yet he does not truly believe in Christ's deity。 Each rule Jordan provides is beautifully written。 One cannot argue that Jordan's writing style is captivating。 He writes like a man possessed with curing the ills of a deeply troubled nation。 Many of his rules captivated me （especially rule 6， "Abandon Ideology" and rule 10， "maintain romance at all costs"）， challenged me， and caused me to reflect upon my own life's trajectory。 Clearly， his emotional appeal is strengthened from his last book， and it is refreshing to see him applying his clinical experiences into his analysis。However， Jordan's analysis of the human experience continues to remain surprisingly empty。 He calls on individuals to make the most of their lives; however， he does not provide a foundation by which individuals can attach meaning to their existence。 He calls on the wisdom of the ages， yet does not provide a genuine response to how humans can overcome life's biggest obstacle （death）。 Ultimately， Jordan appears to have fallen into the same trap Solomon acknowledges in Ecclesiastes。 Wisdom for wisdom's sake does not produce an inherently greater life。 It is still "chasing after the wind。" In reality， this book provided good advice， but it must be taken within the context of looking towards a reality greater than our own。 For we desperately need to move beyond the Kingdom of Man into the Kingdom of Heaven。 。。。more
Dan Schwebel
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If you are familiar with Peterson's work， watched his lectures， or have read 12 Rules for Life， nothing in this book will be new to you。 The rules are fairly consistent with the first book， but instead of looking at the world from the lens of establishing order， he writes from the perspective of chaos。 If you are familiar with Peterson's work， watched his lectures， or have read 12 Rules for Life， nothing in this book will be new to you。 The rules are fairly consistent with the first book， but instead of looking at the world from the lens of establishing order， he writes from the perspective of chaos。 。。。more
Catherine Stormblessed
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I cannot fully solidify how and why all of the intimate parts of my life feel so drawn to this book but I connected so deeply to this second addition of Peterson's 12 Rules For Life。 This one spoke to me even more personally than the first edition。 His first book highlights how too much chaos can be unproductive for our personal growth。 This book puts chaos in a different light and emphasizes how it is a quintessential part of our individual progression when handled properly。I have never liked s I cannot fully solidify how and why all of the intimate parts of my life feel so drawn to this book but I connected so deeply to this second addition of Peterson's 12 Rules For Life。 This one spoke to me even more personally than the first edition。 His first book highlights how too much chaos can be unproductive for our personal growth。 This book puts chaos in a different light and emphasizes how it is a quintessential part of our individual progression when handled properly。I have never liked self help books。 However， these feel different。 Peterson tells me things that I already know。 But he does it in such a way that feels very personal and empowering。 He tells you the why， how， and what。 He also speaks as if there is always more to give。 His thoughts are intimate enough that you feel a part of the conversation that is ongoing for different individuals。 His words remind me of my own father。 The important father figures in my life have given me a sense of value and purpose that have helped me through difficult times far too complicated to properly describe。I teared up multiple times reading this book。 Maybe this sounds dramatic but I genuinely felt my soul drawn to a higher calling and purpose。 Something that is innate that wants to come forth。 I felt so seen reading this。 There's far too much I could write about so I will just leave this review with some quotes I found particularly inspiring:- “You are not only something that is。 You are something that is becoming — and the potential extent of that becoming also transcends your understanding。”- “We need to understand the role of art， and stop thinking about it as an option， or a luxury， or worse， an affection。 Art is the bedrock of culture itself。 It is the foundation of the process by which we unite ourselves psychologically， and come to establish productive peace with others。"- “With careful searching， with careful attention， you might tip the balance toward opportunity and against obstacle sufficiently so that life is clearly worth living， despite its fragility and suffering。 If you truly wanted， perhaps you would receive， if you asked。 If you truly sought， perhaps you would find what you seek。 If you knocked， truly wanting to enter， perhaps the door would open。 But there will be times in your life when it will take everything you have to face what is in front of you， instead of hiding away from a truth so terrible that the only thing worse is the falsehood you long to replace it with。 Do not hide unwanted things in the fog。”- “An artist constantly risks falling fully into chaos， instead of transforming it。”- “When you are visited by chaos and swallowed up; when nature curses you or someone you love with illness; or when tyranny rends asunder something of value that you have built， it is salutary to know the rest of the story。 All of that misfortune is only the bitter half of the tale of existence， without taking note of the heroic element of redemption or the nobility of the human spirit requiring a certain responsibility to shoulder。 We ignore that addition to the story at our peril， because life is so difficult that losing sight of the heroic part of existence could cost us everything。”- “To have others attend to what you find important or interesting is to validate， first， the importance of what you are attending to， but second， and more crucially， to validate you as a respected center of conscious experience and contributor to the collective world。” 。。。more
Matt Reynaud
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Dr Peterson has an eloquent way of composing an idea into a beautifully presented piece of subject matter that is informative and entertaining。 This book is worth the read and will certainly leave you better off than you were at the start。
Shem Doupe
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This book is truly a masterpiece。 It far surpasses the previous book。 Unlike the last book， nearly every rule in the book had me turning each page wanting more and more。 Personal takeaways:1。 His fleshing out of the importance of a deep understanding of the current system and then carefully transcending it （as in the Harry Potter and Jesus examples） were quite interesting and really made me appreciate the need to go beyond the existing order - but only after you've lived in and mastered it。 2。 T This book is truly a masterpiece。 It far surpasses the previous book。 Unlike the last book， nearly every rule in the book had me turning each page wanting more and more。 Personal takeaways:1。 His fleshing out of the importance of a deep understanding of the current system and then carefully transcending it （as in the Harry Potter and Jesus examples） were quite interesting and really made me appreciate the need to go beyond the existing order - but only after you've lived in and mastered it。 2。 The breakdown of the origin of narratives as a means of communications on how to act properly is excellent。 3。 I particularly resonate with the idea of not hiding unwanted things in the fog。 Similar to the dragon myth， things that are hidden in the fog only grow and return with a vengeance。 This is great。4。 Peterson does an outstanding job dismantling ideology as a tenable means to an end。 He is probably most credited （along with Haidt） for my departure from political tribadism。 His chapter on abandoning ideology is just a masterful explanation of how low-resolution political ideology is and how dangerous it can become。 5。 I'm a total sucker for making things beautiful。 His chapter on making one room as beautiful as possible was really great。 I branched out and picked up some unique art and finished my basement。 I'll be finishing my basement soon as well and I often have Peterson's voice in the back of my head。 "clean your room， bucko！" Definitely pick up this book。 It is very good。 。。。more
Literally Right
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Jordan Peterson must have heard his critics when he wrote this book， I found it to be much more focused on steps you can apply to your life， rather than rambling off on a deeply abstract and often confusing side tangent （which he still does， but much less than in 12 rules of life）。 Immediately useful information that will actively make you a better person if you truly apply them。 If you are scrolling through reviews you might notice a large number of 1 star reviews with nasty comments on them。。。 Jordan Peterson must have heard his critics when he wrote this book， I found it to be much more focused on steps you can apply to your life， rather than rambling off on a deeply abstract and often confusing side tangent （which he still does， but much less than in 12 rules of life）。 Immediately useful information that will actively make you a better person if you truly apply them。 If you are scrolling through reviews you might notice a large number of 1 star reviews with nasty comments on them。。。。 I find it interesting because one of the rules he brings up is to Abandon Ideology。 The people rating 1 star are mostly people who ideologically disagree or have a preconceived notion about Jordan Peterson， I find it ironic that they could really benefit from that chapter。 。。。more
Richard Weaver
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Better than his first book
Rowan Siebes
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Some books are incredibly painful to read， not because they're not good， but precisely because they are。 They find the right words for the thoughts you've had before， and allow you to reconsider your mode of being hitherto。 Every page is like taking yourself apart， a little bit at a time， and putting yourself back together。 Some books are incredibly painful to read， not because they're not good， but precisely because they are。 They find the right words for the thoughts you've had before， and allow you to reconsider your mode of being hitherto。 Every page is like taking yourself apart， a little bit at a time， and putting yourself back together。 。。。more
Joel Bryce
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This review has been hidden because it contains spoilers。 To view it， click here。 I preferred his first book。 I found a few of these chapters more difficult to get through。 Favorite chapters included: Rule V: Do not do what you hate。 Page 148 is compelling in its presentation of living with integrity/honesty。 "Unfortunately， people often act in spite of their conscience - even if they know it - and hell tends to arrive step by step， one betrayal after another。 And it should be remembered that it is rare for people to stand up against what they know to be wrong， even when the I preferred his first book。 I found a few of these chapters more difficult to get through。 Favorite chapters included: Rule V: Do not do what you hate。 Page 148 is compelling in its presentation of living with integrity/honesty。 "Unfortunately， people often act in spite of their conscience - even if they know it - and hell tends to arrive step by step， one betrayal after another。 And it should be remembered that it is rare for people to stand up against what they know to be wrong， even when the consequences for doing so are comparatively slight。 And this is something to deeply consider， if you are concerned with leading a moral and careful life: if you do not object when the transgressions against your conscience are minor， why presume that you will not willfully participate when the transgressions get truly out of hand？" Rule VIII; Try to make one room in your home as beautiful as possible。 I so enjoyed this chapter and how he describes art and artists。 Pg 203: "Buy a piece of art。 Find one that speaks to you and make the purchase。 If it is a genuine artistic production， it will invade your life and change it。 A real piece of art is a window into the transcendent and you need that in your life， because you are finite and limited and bounded by your ignorance。 Unless you can make a connection to the transcendent， you will not have the strength to prevail when the challenges of life become daunting。 You need to establish a link with what is beyond you， like a man overboard in high seas requires a life preserver， and the invitation of beauty into your life is one means by which that may be accomplished。" 。。。。 or （pg 202）: "If you learn to make something in your life truly beautiful - even one thing - then you have established a relationship with beauty。 From there you can begin to expand that relationship out into other elements of your life and world。" Also， the way he talks about the world we know， and don't know， and acquiring knowledge somehow drew me in and resonated with me。 （Pg。 212）。Rule XII: Be grateful in spite of your suffering。 Pg 360: "You will see， if you are willing to look， the adversarial force at work within you， working to undermine your best intentions。" 。。。more
Jaeda
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I really enjoyed this， even more than I enjoyed 12 Rules。 I decided to read this one， instead of listening to the audiobook。 I think I would have enjoyed the audiobook more， but I will leave that for another time。 This book is like a mirror， where Dr。 Peterson cuts straight to the heart of the matter and you see yourself with all your deficiencies。 He shows you the way out， and it's hard work！ You feel as though Dr。 Peterson really understands not only yourself， but humans in general。 I really enjoyed this， even more than I enjoyed 12 Rules。 I decided to read this one， instead of listening to the audiobook。 I think I would have enjoyed the audiobook more， but I will leave that for another time。 This book is like a mirror， where Dr。 Peterson cuts straight to the heart of the matter and you see yourself with all your deficiencies。 He shows you the way out， and it's hard work！ You feel as though Dr。 Peterson really understands not only yourself， but humans in general。 。。。more
Elliott Morreau
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Just finished today。 First 2 rules？ Wasn't really digging it。Upon completing it， I must say it's a must read。 。 。helped immensely on relationships and accountability。 While JP doesn't give me many 'new' ideas， I did find on four rules that my brain exploded with connections。Ie : Communism's many ideals replace the fundamentals of religion。。。another great read！！ Just finished today。 First 2 rules？ Wasn't really digging it。Upon completing it， I must say it's a must read。 。 。helped immensely on relationships and accountability。 While JP doesn't give me many 'new' ideas， I did find on four rules that my brain exploded with connections。Ie : Communism's many ideals replace the fundamentals of religion。。。another great read！！ 。。。more
Caleb M
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Peterson is provides a lot of common sense guidance in a “pull yourself up by your bootstraps” sort of way。 But he also acknowledged the importance of community and surrounding yourself with people who will hold you up during difficult times。 There are worse people out there to take advice from and I can only hope that those who are searching for meaning and find some hope in Peterson’s work will continue their search and find that ultimate hope lies not man’s antidotes to chaos but in Christ’s。
Kyle Hamelin
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Dr。 Peterson does it again！ A worthy sequel to the original 12 Rules for Life！ This book is fantastic and the psychological analysis is just as powerful in this book as in his previous book。 There are some truly potent stories from his clinical practice that will absolutely captivate you。 The rules are both practical， simple， and yet also deeply opened up in a way that only Dr。 Peterson seems to be able to do so clearly and concisely。 This book could have easily been twice the length， although I Dr。 Peterson does it again！ A worthy sequel to the original 12 Rules for Life！ This book is fantastic and the psychological analysis is just as powerful in this book as in his previous book。 There are some truly potent stories from his clinical practice that will absolutely captivate you。 The rules are both practical， simple， and yet also deeply opened up in a way that only Dr。 Peterson seems to be able to do so clearly and concisely。 This book could have easily been twice the length， although I will admit there was quite a bit of overlapping material and themes from the first book， however， Dr。 Peterson is able to distill his complex analysis and thoughts into a challenging but succinct read。 This is a truly great follow-up to its predecessor and a great read for people from all stripes of life。 In my opinion， there are a few issues that prevent this book from attaining the same 5 out of 5-star review as the first book: 1） There was a lot of overlap in the themes， which lead to some moments of me thinking to myself "This is just him restating what he has already said in 12 Rules"。 2） There wasn't as clear of a direction in this book as in the first book， and the general them of going beyond order into the chaotic was sometimes fuzzy at best or completely absent at other times。 All of this being said it is impossible for me to give this book anything less than 4 out of 5 stars due to the brilliance of the analysis and the truth it reveals。 。。。more
Donna Craig
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This book is exactly the high-quality， deep-thinking work I expect from Dr。 Peterson。 I wish I had had his guidance when I was younger。 Still， I find it incredibly inspiring and hopeful。 He continues to express that hard work and integrity are worthwhile。 I love his optimism。 This book is 12 More Rules for Life， and as such it is divided into 12 sections。 He begins and ends each section by reciting the rule， then he goes on to explain it and fill out the meaning of and reasons for it。 I did the This book is exactly the high-quality， deep-thinking work I expect from Dr。 Peterson。 I wish I had had his guidance when I was younger。 Still， I find it incredibly inspiring and hopeful。 He continues to express that hard work and integrity are worthwhile。 I love his optimism。 This book is 12 More Rules for Life， and as such it is divided into 12 sections。 He begins and ends each section by reciting the rule， then he goes on to explain it and fill out the meaning of and reasons for it。 I did the audio， which is read by the author。 I love his voice and the personality he puts into his reading。 Even the acknowledgments kept my interest！5 huge stars for this sequel to 12 Rules for Life。 。。。more
Hardus Scheepers
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A dense read， well thought through。 Enjoyed it as much if not more than the first book。
Christine Shan
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The first book is dedicated to bring order into chaos whereas this book elaborates on the importance of appreciating and embracing chaos once order is established。
David
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I'm too old for much of the life advice contained in this book， and unlike the author， I attribute close to zero importance to dreams and dream analysis as useful analytical tools - but Dr。 Peterson is an extremely interesting， intelligent and brave individual。 More power to him。 I'm too old for much of the life advice contained in this book， and unlike the author， I attribute close to zero importance to dreams and dream analysis as useful analytical tools - but Dr。 Peterson is an extremely interesting， intelligent and brave individual。 More power to him。 。。。more
Pelle
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When cleaning your room isn't enough When cleaning your room isn't enough 。。。more
Jim Dowdell
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Few books are appropriate for a universal audience; this one is a must read for all。 After reading Jordan Peterson’s second instruction manual for your life you will become a better person。 Read it slowly and watch as your life becomes richer。 This investment of your time will change your life and make the world a better place for your loved ones。Life is what you pay attention to， now you can know what is worth paying attention to。
Abdullah Shams
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